This week on TheCutPodcast, HannaRosin talks to model and new author emrata about the blurred line between empowerment and objectification
Photo-Illustration: by The Cut; Photo: Getty Images On this week’s episode of The Cut, executive producer Hanna Rosin talks to model Emily Ratajkowski about her new book of essays, My Body, as well as starring in Robin Thicke’s infamous music video for “Blurred Lines” and her recent pregnancy.
For example, that vice-principal thought she was saying to me, like, “you should watch out, you should be aware of this.” And like, “if I don’t snap your bra strap, somebody else will.” I don’t think she was doing it necessarily in a malicious way. I don’t know. But in general, that was the purpose behind that essay.
Hanna: Yeah. I really want to talk about the “Blurred Lines” portion of the book, because I — have you rewatched that video? Do you ever watch it?Hanna: It’s so weird to think about that and think “that’s what propelled me to fame.” It’s such an odd moment, such a specific artifact of the culture. Hanna: I think that’s the whole trick of the book as something we see generally on the surface. We’re just seeing your Instagram or we’re just seeing you in the video. The pleasure of the book is that you get the internal thoughts of what that experience is like. That’s what’s interesting about it: it’s like a heart, it’s like a hard line to walk because it’s not you commodifying your own body yet.
Hanna: This is a risky thing to do in the book. The thing you wrote about, your trip, or when you start to commodify yourself. It’s hard to be that rich and successful and ask people to inhabit your mind or feel sympathetic. That feels like a risky thing to do. Did you ever think about that and like, “will they feel sorry for me? No, they won’t feel sorry for me because I am rich” or whatever?
Hanna: The most powerful essay in the book, which everyone talks about, is the assault that happened to you when you were younger— should we tell that story? I never know how much people know. I mean, that’s the story that was on The Cut. We’ll explain it very briefly, but to me, that is the thing that happened that would lead you to take control of your own body, commodity, destiny, whatever.
Hanna: But it just feels morally outrageous that someone could essentially trick a young person in this completely weird setup into taking these pictures, be totally dismissive of them, and then years later, like when you’re worth something, come back and publish pictures of you and make a ton of money off of it. No contact — it feels so outrageous that that could happen.
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