New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy on Wawa Morgue Trucks, Trump and the Terrifying New Normal

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New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy on Wawa Morgue Trucks, Trump and the Terrifying New Normal
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“We’re up against it, folks. And this is what you’re going to have to do, even though it’s really uncomfortable. This is a fact, whether it’s a refrigerated morgue tra…

To their credit, they have delivered on at least pieces of our asks, and some significant ones. So we still need a lot more ventilators, that’s for sure. We still need a lot more personal protective equipment. We’re trying to source all of the above from as many places in the world as possible, but there’s no substitute for the federal government.

We don’t hold a lot back. … So when you talk about a refrigerator truck, which is basically a morgue, we’ve had a lot of corporations step up — that’s a pretty unique one. So Wawa, to their credit … It’s uncomfortable, it’s not something that you feel very good even talking about. But I also think at the same time, we need to shoot straight with each other. I feel strongly that we need to tell folks the truth.

Not that I’m aware of. When I say not that I’m aware of, I’ve not been a party to any conversations. I have looked at the New York City discussions, and that’s pretty shocking. When you see something like that, like a refrigerator morgue unit, it’s possible that there’s some discussion in a certain county, but I’m not aware of any discussions with that at the state level.

You recently called for volunteers who COBOL, a 1950s coding language. Why? What other niche skills do you think we need to break the back of the virus? That one’s a bummer for me because I like to shake hands. I think it’s pretty profound. I think it’s dramatically different. That doesn’t mean it won’t be a good, ultimately a good normal, but it’s a different normal, and particularly the early stages.

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